The trades of C.C. Sabathia & Cliff Lee could haunt the Cleveland Indians for a long time

Blogged under Bloglockers,Front Page,General by chinmusic on Thursday 21 October 2010 at 3:37 pm

Cliff Lee and C.C. Sabathia have been outstanding since they have left the Cleveland Indians. 32-year old Cliff Lee has started 40 games since he left the Cleveland Indians during the regular season and he is 19-13 with a 3.24 ERA and a 1.04 WHIP. Those are good numbers but he has turned into one of the best post season pitchers of all-time. He has started 8 games in the post season in is career so far and he is 7-0 with a 1.26 ERA and a 0.73 WHIP! Three of those post season wins have come against the Yankees! C.C. Sabathia has started 85 games in three years since he has left the Indians and he is 51-17 with a 2.92 ERA and a 1.13 WHIP. Here is s breakdown of what the Indians got back from the Phillies (for Cliff Lee) and the Brewers for C.C. Sabathia:


Jason Knapp: 20-year old righty starting pitcher Jason Knapp was supposed to be the key to the Cliff Lee trade. In his first two years in the minors for the Indians, Knapp has started 13 games in Rookie+A-ball and he is 1-2 with a 3.60 ERA and a 1.18 WHIP. It’s way to early to judge Knapp.

Carlos Carrasco: 23-year old righty starting pitcher Carlos Carrasco really looked good at the end of the 2010 season for the Indians. He started 7 games for the Tribe in 2010 and he was 2-2 with a 3.83 ERA and a 1.37 WHIP. Carrasco has pitched in 12 games (all starts) in his two years with the Indians and he is 2-6 with a 5.51 ERA and a 1.67 WHIP. I think Carrasco will start the 2011 season in the Indians’ starting rotation and I think he is the key to this deal’s success of failure.

Jason Donald: 26-year old righty swinging 2B/SS made a decent first impression with the Indians this year. He played in 88 games for the Indians this year and he was 75 of 296 (.253 avg, .690 OPS) with 39 runs scored, 4 homers, 24 RBIs and 5 stolen bases. Donald will have a chance to compete for the starting 2B job next spring but I view him more as a utility type player.

Lou Marson: 24-year old righty swinging catcher Lou Marson was handed the starting catcher job out of spring training and he lost it by sucking. Marson played in 87 games for the Indians last season and he was 51 of 262 (.195 avg, .560 OPS) with 29 runs scored, 3 homers, 22 RBIs and 8 stolen bases. He has now played in 101 games in his 2 years with the Tribe and he is 62 of 306 (.203 avg, .586 OPS) with 35 runs scored, 3 homers, 26 RBIs and 8 stolen bases.


Matt LaPorta: 25-year old righty swinging 1B/LF Matt LaPorta was allegedly one of the best power hitting prospects when he was traded to the Indians. I have not seen any signs of this guy being a good major league baseball player. LaPorta played in 110 games for the Indians last season and he was 83 of 376 (.221 avg, .668 OPS) with 41 runs scored, 12 homers and 41 RBIs. He has now played in 162 games in his first two years with the Tribe and he is 129 of 557 (.232 avg, .694 OPS) with 70 runs scored, 19 homers and 62 RBIs.

Michael Brantley: 23-year old lefty swinging LF/CF Michael Brantley has been a little up and down with the Indians. Brantley played in 72 games for the Indians last season and he as 73 of 297 (.246 avg, .623 OPS) with 38 runs scored, 3 homers, 22 RBIs and 10 stolen bases. He has now played in 100 games in his first two years with the Indians and he is 108 of 409 (.264 avg, .645 OPS) with 48 runs scored, 3 homers, 33 RBIs and 14 stolen bases. Brantley might progress to where he can he an everyday outfielder batting near the top of the order.

Rob Bryson: 22-year old righty reliever Rob Bryson might have the highest upside of any player the Indians got in this deal. Bryson pitched inn 33 games (3 starts) in A+AA-ball for the Indians last season and he was 7-2 with 1 save, a 2.53 ERA and a 0.98 WHIP. He has now pitched in 43 games (6 starts) in three years in the minors for the Tribe and he is 7-3 with 1 save, a 2.88 ERA and a 1.02 WHIP. If Bryson keeps pitching the way he is right now he will be in Cleveland in no time.

Zach Jackson: 27-year old lefty Zach Jackson didn’t last too long with the Indians. He pitched in 12 games (10 starts) in two years with the Indians and he was 2-3 with a 6.11 ERA and a 1.52 WHIP. He is no longer in the Indians organization.

These two deals wreak of the Indians’ new ownership being utterly cheap. If you put a winning team in Progressive Field the fans will pack it…..that is a message the front office should remember from the days when John Hart and Dick Jacobs were running things.


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